Comments on: The great AS3/AS2 debate: Is it slower to work with AS3 than AS2? My take: A bit http://www.arpitonline.com/blog/2008/10/29/the-great-as3as2-debate-is-it-slower-to-work-with-as3-than-as2-my-take-a-bit/ "I write pretty software" Tue, 07 Feb 2012 23:52:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: My take on the “Has ActionScript failed” debate | code zen http://www.arpitonline.com/blog/2008/10/29/the-great-as3as2-debate-is-it-slower-to-work-with-as3-than-as2-my-take-a-bit/comment-page-1/#comment-60855 My take on the “Has ActionScript failed” debate | code zen Sun, 09 Aug 2009 20:36:47 +0000 http://www.arpitonline.com/blog/?p=151#comment-60855 [...] had already blogged how AS3 has gotten a bit slower to work with than AS2. Adobe should look at the mistakes people are making everyday and improve either the language or [...] [...] had already blogged how AS3 has gotten a bit slower to work with than AS2. Adobe should look at the mistakes people are making everyday and improve either the language or [...]

]]> By: theactionscripter http://www.arpitonline.com/blog/2008/10/29/the-great-as3as2-debate-is-it-slower-to-work-with-as3-than-as2-my-take-a-bit/comment-page-1/#comment-60288 theactionscripter Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:40:14 +0000 http://www.arpitonline.com/blog/?p=151#comment-60288 I personally think writing in AS3 is faster now. That is because I have been writing in it for some time now. When I was first converting from 2 to 3, I thought the opposite. I do think AS3 wins!!! I personally think writing in AS3 is faster now. That is because I have been writing in it for some time now. When I was first converting from 2 to 3, I thought the opposite. I do think AS3 wins!!!

]]> By: arpit http://www.arpitonline.com/blog/2008/10/29/the-great-as3as2-debate-is-it-slower-to-work-with-as3-than-as2-my-take-a-bit/comment-page-1/#comment-46749 arpit Fri, 31 Oct 2008 14:57:15 +0000 http://www.arpitonline.com/blog/?p=151#comment-46749 @Daniel True, using Flex Builder is a huge time save, but thats a tooling feature not a language one. What if you are not using Flex Builder but simple TextMate (I do know people who do, thats the joy of having an open source compiler). Point is the extra typing should be gotten rid of. @marshall Both examples should be showing the same functionality. The AS2 version has an onLoad with a success param that is either true or false. The AS3 has to have 3 listeners explicitly added. @George K You might be right on the ignoreWhite. In AS2 I have the onLoad with a success param that is a boolean. I think its more for when you use HTTP POST. Not sure if AS2 had POST. @Daniel
True, using Flex Builder is a huge time save, but thats a tooling feature not a language one. What if you are not using Flex Builder but simple TextMate (I do know people who do, thats the joy of having an open source compiler). Point is the extra typing should be gotten rid of.

@marshall
Both examples should be showing the same functionality. The AS2 version has an onLoad with a success param that is either true or false. The AS3 has to have 3 listeners explicitly added.

@George K
You might be right on the ignoreWhite. In AS2 I have the onLoad with a success param that is a boolean. I think its more for when you use HTTP POST. Not sure if AS2 had POST.

]]> By: George K http://www.arpitonline.com/blog/2008/10/29/the-great-as3as2-debate-is-it-slower-to-work-with-as3-than-as2-my-take-a-bit/comment-page-1/#comment-46745 George K Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:25:43 +0000 http://www.arpitonline.com/blog/?p=151#comment-46745 Isn't ignore white redundant in AS3? I was under the impression that it was automatic? Also, is AS2 automatically handling the error reporting? You have 2 lines dedicated to error event listeners but there doesn't seem to be anything comprable in the AS2 code. Also, is it necessary to create the URLVariables? Is it not possible to simply append to the URL the same way you did in the AS2 example? Isn’t ignore white redundant in AS3? I was under the impression that it was automatic?

Also, is AS2 automatically handling the error reporting? You have 2 lines dedicated to error event listeners but there doesn’t seem to be anything comprable in the AS2 code.

Also, is it necessary to create the URLVariables? Is it not possible to simply append to the URL the same way you did in the AS2 example?

]]> By: marshall http://www.arpitonline.com/blog/2008/10/29/the-great-as3as2-debate-is-it-slower-to-work-with-as3-than-as2-my-take-a-bit/comment-page-1/#comment-46710 marshall Thu, 30 Oct 2008 10:35:26 +0000 http://www.arpitonline.com/blog/?p=151#comment-46710 First example is bad. AS3 version have listeners for onLoad and errors... You can also use: urlLoader.load(new URLRequest('doc.xml?foo=bar')); First example is bad. AS3 version have listeners for onLoad and errors… You can also use:
urlLoader.load(new URLRequest(‘doc.xml?foo=bar’));

]]> By: Tom Carden http://www.arpitonline.com/blog/2008/10/29/the-great-as3as2-debate-is-it-slower-to-work-with-as3-than-as2-my-take-a-bit/comment-page-1/#comment-46697 Tom Carden Thu, 30 Oct 2008 04:45:32 +0000 http://www.arpitonline.com/blog/?p=151#comment-46697 I definitely agree with you about a lot of these, but onReleaseOutside behaviour is still possible. You have to listen for Event.MOUSE_LEAVE on the stage. It's extremely frustrating that it's not a MouseEvent, because your MOUSE_UP handler for dragging has to take an Event, which often trips me up. Also, as you say, you have to listen for Event.ADDED_TO_STAGE in order to add a listener to the stage. Anyway, the functionality is there, even though many Flash apps suffer from not responding to it. I definitely agree with you about a lot of these, but onReleaseOutside behaviour is still possible. You have to listen for Event.MOUSE_LEAVE on the stage. It’s extremely frustrating that it’s not a MouseEvent, because your MOUSE_UP handler for dragging has to take an Event, which often trips me up. Also, as you say, you have to listen for Event.ADDED_TO_STAGE in order to add a listener to the stage. Anyway, the functionality is there, even though many Flash apps suffer from not responding to it.

]]> By: Daniel Hai http://www.arpitonline.com/blog/2008/10/29/the-great-as3as2-debate-is-it-slower-to-work-with-as3-than-as2-my-take-a-bit/comment-page-1/#comment-46696 Daniel Hai Thu, 30 Oct 2008 04:40:52 +0000 http://www.arpitonline.com/blog/?p=151#comment-46696 Well, I'll just say that all of this removed by one very very simple fact. If you use flex builder to test your code, your errors come up as you save, not as you launch. You will save 1000% right there in time. You will find in time that you will work faster, as you start building yourself libraries. Yes it is more typing, but faster dev. Try adding debug points in AS2. You end up creating 4000 trace statements on every single item. And parsing XML, dear lord, I don't know how you could even mention that when parsing XML before consisted of: loop; if type == 1 || type == 3; loop; if type == 1 || type == 3; loop; loop; if type == 1 || type == 3; loop; if type == 1 || type == 3; loop; loop; if type == 1 || type == 3; loop; if type == 1 || type == 3; loop; consistency is faster over the long run. for shiz. Well, I’ll just say that all of this removed by one very very simple fact. If you use flex builder to test your code, your errors come up as you save, not as you launch. You will save 1000% right there in time.

You will find in time that you will work faster, as you start building yourself libraries.

Yes it is more typing, but faster dev. Try adding debug points in AS2. You end up creating 4000 trace statements on every single item. And parsing XML, dear lord, I don’t know how you could even mention that when parsing XML before consisted of:

loop; if type == 1 || type == 3; loop; if type == 1 || type == 3; loop; loop; if type == 1 || type == 3; loop; if type == 1 || type == 3; loop; loop; if type == 1 || type == 3; loop; if type == 1 || type == 3; loop;

consistency is faster over the long run. for shiz.

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